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by newera_212 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:22 pm
by B. » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:12 pm
by B. » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:53 pm
by aleksandrored » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am
by B. » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:39 pm
by B. » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:01 pm
by HairyKnuckles » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:25 am
Frank wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 am HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here. Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too. I know that I discussed the Tieri/Lombardo issue with several posters in numerous of threads so finding them all by using the search function will be difficult, But I think this trhread was the one that started the discussion and it kinda splashed over in different threads. viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48&hilit=hate I can't remember if you had Catena as official boss after Genovese, with Tieri becoming official boss after Catena .
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here. Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too. I know that I discussed the Tieri/Lombardo issue with several posters in numerous of threads so finding them all by using the search function will be difficult, But I think this trhread was the one that started the discussion and it kinda splashed over in different threads. viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48&hilit=hate
B. wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here. Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too.
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.
by Frank » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 am
by HairyKnuckles » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm
by B. » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm
by HairyKnuckles » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am
Like others have said, very interesting to see someone from that family refer to Lombardo as the official boss in his own words
by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:51 pm
by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:37 pm
Snakes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:02 pm Do you know what the "siji" they refer to in the transcript is?
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:53 pm B. wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:52 pm On page 30 they talk about Nick Delmore trying to contact Russo frequently because they both lived in Long Branch. DeCarlo says "everyone else made up with" Delmore and "made him the boss again." This fits with an FBI report that says Delmore had been the boss before Phil Amari, as well as boss after. Do you happen to have the years of Delmore's first reign as Boss? I'm drawing a blank. Thanks. Pogo
B. wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:52 pm On page 30 they talk about Nick Delmore trying to contact Russo frequently because they both lived in Long Branch. DeCarlo says "everyone else made up with" Delmore and "made him the boss again." This fits with an FBI report that says Delmore had been the boss before Phil Amari, as well as boss after.
by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:35 pm
by Snakes » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:02 pm
B. wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:52 pm On page 19 of that transcript they discuss the murder of Anthony's brother Ralph Russo in Pittsburgh. Says they told John Russo they tried to save him (Ralph) and that Ralph was with Moe Dalitz in Pittsburgh. Two pages later Russo says they (Boiardos) are trying to set "Joey Casey" (Juliano) up to be hit, which we know ended up happening. They say that Juliano was by this time close to Joe Zicarelli. I don't think Juliano was ever made, so curious if he was an associate of the Bonannos after Boiardo. On page 22 they talk about Willie Moretti confronting Boiardo about having killed so many of his own men, telling Boiardo he might as well gather the rest of his men together and kill them. Keep in mind this is a few years before Boiardo killed even more of his long-time crew members in the early 1970s. They discuss Boiardo killing 5 men at one point but it's not clear who they were. They mention some early names, some of which phonetically match a couple of early Boiardo associates (pre-Genovese family) who were killed and a few pages earlier discussed the murder of Billy Cardinale, a Boiardo soldier killed in the 1950s. On page 25 you can see Russo use the phrase "making him" to refer to Angelo Bruno wanting to make Tony Caponigro a capodecina. Given that it was also Russo later talking about Gerardo, it lends itself to the idea that he was referring to Gerardo's promotion to capodecina then as well. On page 27 they refer to Paul Ricca still being the Chicago boss "behind the scenes". On page 30 they talk about Nick Delmore trying to contact Russo frequently because they both lived in Long Branch. DeCarlo says "everyone else made up with" Delmore and "made him the boss again." This fits with an FBI report that says Delmore had been the boss before Phil Amari, as well as boss after.
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