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Here is another interesting subject, without fighting and arguing these discussions are strictly of opinions or if you know stone cold facts feel free to join in, Kansas City crime family active or defunct?
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Defunct. Not sure what answers you are looking for.


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joerock wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:56 pm Here is another interesting subject, without fighting and arguing these discussions are strictly of opinions or if you know stone cold facts feel free to join in, Kansas City crime family active or defunct?
Genovese
Gambino
Bonanno
Lucchese
Colombo
DeCavalcante
Patriarca
Bruno

those are the active families everyone agrees on, if you're looking to argue with people start a thread on Detroit or Buffalo.
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The problem on this board is unless there is an indictment of some kind nobody will believe any crime family is still active
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Tonyd621 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm The problem on this board is unless there is an indictment of some kind nobody will believe any crime family is still active
An indictment doesn't automatically constitute an "Active Family". There can be an indictment against a "leftover remnant" from a defunct family.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:31 pm
joerock wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:56 pm Here is another interesting subject, without fighting and arguing these discussions are strictly of opinions or if you know stone cold facts feel free to join in, Kansas City crime family active or defunct?
Genovese
Gambino
Bonanno
Lucchese
Colombo
DeCavalcante
Patriarca
Bruno

those are the active families everyone agrees on, if you're looking to argue with people start a thread on Detroit or Buffalo.
I would include the Outfit making the total number of Families 9.
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Confederate wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:07 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm The problem on this board is unless there is an indictment of some kind nobody will believe any crime family is still active
An indictment doesn't automatically constitute an "Active Family". There can be an indictment against a "leftover remnant" from a defunct family.
Exactly, well said C. There’s a definite distinction. We can look at Bobby and Rusty I. of Pittsburgh getting busted 18 months ago for a gambling operation. They’re remnants still working in traditional criminal activity. Nothing more. People struggle to understand the difference. Or just choose to acknowledge there is one.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:31 pm
joerock wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:56 pm Here is another interesting subject, without fighting and arguing these discussions are strictly of opinions or if you know stone cold facts feel free to join in, Kansas City crime family active or defunct?
Genovese
Gambino
Bonanno
Lucchese
Colombo
DeCavalcante
Patriarca
Bruno

those are the active families everyone agrees on, if you're looking to argue with people start a thread on Detroit or Buffalo.
As Confederate said, throw in Chicago and you have the 9 regularly identified by the feds.

Buffalo and Detroit have always attracted debates because, with Pittsburgh, they did last longer into the 1990's than a lot of other families. The debates we are seeing with Buffalo now we saw with Detroit a decade ago before those died out.

After those two, Kansas City would be the next most debated, due in no small part to the 2010 bookmaking bust, as well as some posters putting up names.
NothingNew44 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:14 pm
Confederate wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:07 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm The problem on this board is unless there is an indictment of some kind nobody will believe any crime family is still active
An indictment doesn't automatically constitute an "Active Family". There can be an indictment against a "leftover remnant" from a defunct family.
Exactly, well said C. There’s a definite distinction. We can look at Bobby and Rusty I. of Pittsburgh getting busted 18 months ago for a gambling operation. They’re remnants still working in traditional criminal activity. Nothing more. People struggle to understand the difference. Or just choose to acknowledge there is one.
Exactly. Well said.
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Some people ignore everything and hope for a family to be active, like they want them to be active.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:13 pm Defunct. Not sure what answers you are looking for.

Just trying to learn a few things because That's another family that is up in the air, thank you
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There are a handful of members left, but I doubt there's any structure left. William "Willie the rat" Cammisano's son plead guilty in 2010 to running an illegal gambling operation.

Also, Jerry Cammisano's son, Vito, dated openly gay football player Michael Sam and can be seen kissing him on video shortly after Sam found out that he had been drafted to the NFL.


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If there is a family, I hope Vito is not the boss, because we'd be forced to kill him.
Nah, dead as a door nail.
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UTC wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:26 pm If there is a family, I hope Vito is not the boss, because we'd be forced to kill him.
Nah, dead as a door nail.
He isn't involved in organized crime, he was a swimmer at Mizzou (where Sam played football) and now apparently manages a restaurant in Dallas.
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joerock wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:12 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:13 pm Defunct. Not sure what answers you are looking for.

Just trying to learn a few things because That's another family that is up in the air, thank you
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Sorry I assumed you already knew the answer. LE hasn't recognized a family in KC for about 20 years. Maybe even longer.

TallGuy19 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:34 pm [quote=UTC post_id=162699 time=<a href="tel:1596680801">1596680801</a> user_id=5178]
If there is a family, I hope Vito is not the boss, because we'd be forced to kill him.
Nah, dead as a door nail.
He isn't involved in organized crime, he was a swimmer at Mizzou (where Sam played football) and now apparently manages a restaurant in Dallas.
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He's joking. A reference to the Sopranos when Big Vito got whacked for being a faggot. :lol:


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There is a KC chart from 1987 that lists only a Boss and 2 Capos. So it seems even way back in the late 1980s KC was starting to wind down as a structured organization.


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