Present Day Chicago Outfit

[Frank]

Yes definitely more Americanized than other LCN Families. Lots of non Italians in top leadership positions. The only thing that kept Alex from being sole boss and not on ruling panel was that he was non Italian and also I think he had a bipolar or depression problem.

[Villain]

Yes definitely more Americanized than other LCN Families. Lots of non Italians in top leadership positions. The only thing that kept Alex from being sole boss and not on ruling panel was that he was non Italian and also I think he had a bipolar or depression problem.

There's one FBI file in which the informant asks Alex if he had any chance for becoming the top boss of the Chi syndicate or maybe it was some other stature, but anyways Alex gave an answer something like that he is not allowed for membership in the Italian organization since "its their thing" and then he made an alleged joke that he was the King of Greeks which he really was. There was some sort of suicidal genetic problem within the Alex family which can be obviously explained with Sam Alex and also Gus' agoraphobia and bi polar problems. In his FBI files the feds portrait Gus Alex as highly dangerous individual with suicidal tendencies, similar with today's ISIS

[Villain]

Heres one short report regarding the convo..

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... g%20greeks

And he was obviously wrong or played stupid at the time regarding his alleged ban for going up since it occurred the next decade...

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20accardo

[Stroccos]

Does anyone have any clue of that last Induction in Chicago ?
1998 is the last one I can find ,

[Snakes]

Yeah, 1988 is the last documented one. I think that's what you meant. Sal DeLaurentis was mentioned as being made in 1989 but he's the only name I have from that year.

[Pete]

Yeah, 1988 is the last documented one. I think that's what you meant. Sal DeLaurentis was mentioned as being made in 1989 but he's the only name I have from that year.

Yes solly d, Also fratto, Pete difronzo, Anthony chiaramonti, Gerald scarpelli, jimmy diforti. Might have been a few more. It was discussed in fratto sentencing memo from latest conviction

[Frank]

Again great info Villian. Shows just how far up in the Outfit Alex got. Also validates the 3 man ruling panel of that time period after Cerone went to prison.

[Snakes]

Yeah, 1988 is the last documented one. I think that's what you meant. Sal DeLaurentis was mentioned as being made in 1989 but he's the only name I have from that year.

Yes solly d, Also fratto, Pete difronzo, Anthony chiaramonti, Gerald scarpelli, jimmy diforti. Might have been a few more. It was discussed in fratto sentencing memo from latest conviction

No, I think they were two different ones. The one you are thinking of is from 1988. Solly D was allegedly made at a different one in 1989. The Fratto sentencing memo doesn't mention him with the others you named.

[Pete]

***the Carparelli case had him being commissioned by/kicking up to DeLaurentis, didn't have him necessarily pegged as the #1.

If my memory is correct according to the indictment and wiretaps solly got to carparelli either 2nd or 3rd hand. Solly reached out to someone who reached out to someone who got him in touch with carparelli or something like that . Based on how he talks in the wiretaps it sounds like he didn't know solly at all. Talks of handling something for Mickey D who was sollys partner and that they could get on the map with those guys for doing it. Sounded like there was no direct contact or relationship between carparelli and solly more just a wannabe. Only articles I saw that said he kicked up to solly were from Scott I think

Correct, and Mickey Davis is a DiFronzo underling, which shows that orders are still likely being doled out via Elmwood Park. I dont but that DeLaurentis is "the guy". I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Pete DiFronzo was #1.

I would be shocked if Pete was boss. Everything I heard was his juice was gone once his brother started losing it. Why would Pete even wanna be boss? Lives in a huge mansion makes tons of money through his businesses. Has more to lose than anyone if he was to get pinched

[Pete]

Does anyone have any clue of that last Induction in Chicago ?
1998 is the last one I can find ,

88 was last confirmed by FBI. Obviously more after as magnafichi discussed his own making in the early 90's. Could have been 94. Lots of talk of marcello making people in 03 and sarno possibly making people. All that could be made up though since nothing has been said from a credible source

[Pete]

Yeah, 1988 is the last documented one. I think that's what you meant. Sal DeLaurentis was mentioned as being made in 1989 but he's the only name I have from that year.

Yes solly d, Also fratto, Pete difronzo, Anthony chiaramonti, Gerald scarpelli, jimmy diforti. Might have been a few more. It was discussed in fratto sentencing memo from latest conviction

No, I think they were two different ones. The one you are thinking of is from 1988. Solly D was allegedly made at a different one in 1989. The Fratto sentencing memo doesn't mention him with the others you named.

No they were the same according to nick calabrese . I have nick calabrese testimony at my house and he named all those guys as being made at the same ceremony which he heard about from jimmy lapietra

[Pete]

I stand corrected just read again and didn't see solly. Let me see if it was another document where I got that from

[Wiseguy]

2. Honestly when you say the Outfit has NO ties to video poker, I wanna believe it. But this wasn't too long ago...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-v ... story.html

Like this stuff happens. This is a crooked Fuckin City. These guys been in the coin machine type business for decades going back to the Jukes. You really think they have NO INTEREST? Really?

I don't know who said the Outfit has no ties to video poker. They are obviously involved. Just don't assume that every machine in the state, or even most of them, are controlled by the mob.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Ah Chicago.
Only family which can kick off a 12 page thread in 48hrs.

When nothing's happened.

Barney would be jealous.

[Snakes]

At least it's been relatively civil. 5-10 years ago, 5 people would have been banned by now.