Old NYPD Surveillance Report

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Re: Old NYPD Surveillance Report

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TSNYC wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:14 pm Didn’t indicate. Thought that was interesting too. If Christy was there you’d think Amuso or Casso probably there too, all while plotting Gotti death.
But also hes the only high level guy from another family observed there? Weird.
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Thanks for sharing. We've always heard about Gotti having heaps of people show up to the Ravenite, but 150+ over the course of a few hours is nuts.

Interesting to see Allie Shades and Joey Scopo show up too. I've read they were close to Gotti.
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funkster wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:54 pm Interesting that Christy Tick was there. Wonder if that was jr or sr?
I lean towards it being Jr because Sr was in the middle of the Commission Case after being arrested and indicted in February of that year. I have to believe Sr was to smart to show up to a literal circus of Mafiosi which they all knew was being surveilled, but I guess anything is possible.
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Re: 8/6/1987 Surveillance Report - Ravenite

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TSNYC wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:53 pm Following observed in front of Ravenite during surveillance:

Joseph Armone
Bobby Boriello
Michael Cirelli
Joseph Corozzo
Nicholas Corozzo
Norman DuPont
Jack Giordano
John Gotti
Salvatore Gravano
Michael Guerrieri
Frank Locascio
Frank Low
Otto Macrini - 5/14/1913
Anthony Mascuzzio
Dominick Pizzonia
Alphonse Sisca
Mario Traina
Frank Villiaro - dob 8/12/1948
Joseph Watts - dob 12/8/1941

At 4:20pm, observes John Gotti, Joseph Armone, and Jack Giordano meeting on Prince St between Lafayette and Mulberry Sts., Giordano was holding pieces of paper during the conversation. Standing in nearby were Bobby Boriello, Anthony Mascuzzio, and Nicholas Corozzo.
Wtf no John Alite? Or maybe he was in between conducting a ceremony and plotting who to whack with Barney
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How come Greg DePalma is not mentioned?
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Re: 8/6/1987 Surveillance Report - Ravenite

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Tonyd621 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:09 pm
TSNYC wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:53 pm Following observed in front of Ravenite during surveillance:

Joseph Armone
Bobby Boriello
Michael Cirelli
Joseph Corozzo
Nicholas Corozzo
Norman DuPont
Jack Giordano
John Gotti
Salvatore Gravano
Michael Guerrieri
Frank Locascio
Frank Low
Otto Macrini - 5/14/1913
Anthony Mascuzzio
Dominick Pizzonia
Alphonse Sisca
Mario Traina
Frank Villiaro - dob 8/12/1948
Joseph Watts - dob 12/8/1941

At 4:20pm, observes John Gotti, Joseph Armone, and Jack Giordano meeting on Prince St between Lafayette and Mulberry Sts., Giordano was holding pieces of paper during the conversation. Standing in nearby were Bobby Boriello, Anthony Mascuzzio, and Nicholas Corozzo.
Wtf no John Alite? Or maybe he was in between conducting a ceremony and plotting who to whack with Barney
Alite is full of shit but I have seen surveillance tapes in front of the Ravenite with him standing there and people like JoJo greeted him...he was around, for lack of a better term...
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Had no idea Louis Astuto was involved at such a young age, he’s only in his 50s now
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TommyGambino wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:32 am Had no idea Louis Astuto was involved at such a young age, he’s only in his 50s now
I believe thats his dad Louie fats Astuto. He was with Jimmy Failla.
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7/6/1987 - Ravenite

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Monday, July 6, 1987, 5:30pm, following observations:

John Gotti, Salvatore Gravano, and Joseph Armone walking north on Mulberry St. talking. They walked to and stopped in front of the Ravenite social club, still engaged in conversation. The following persons were observed standing in front of the club:
Joseph Corozzo
Nicholas Corozzo
Joseph Messina (assuming that’s Massino)
August Sclafani
Anthony Mascuzzio
Joseph Corrao
Alphonse Sisca
Edward Garafola
Gene Gotti
Otto Macrini

Following autos observed parked in the area:

1984 Mercedes, registered to Big Apple Leasing, 105 Peconic Ave, Medford Ny

1986 Mercedes, registered to Arc Plumbing, 97-12 101st St. Ozone Park, NY

1985 Cadillac, registered to United Penn Bank, 8-18 W. Market St., Wilkes Barre, PA
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8/21/1987 - Ravenite

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Friday, August 21, 1987, 3:30pm, following observed in front of the Ravenite social club:
Michael Cirelli
Nicholas DeLia
Norman DuPont
Michael LaPorte
Alphonse Sisca

At 4:30pm, observed John Gotti arrive in auto with NJ plates. Gotti entered the Ravenite and the auto drove off. Auto was being driven by George Helbig and John D’Amico was a passenger. The auto was registered to Benzel Bush Leasing, Englewood NJ.

At 4:40pm, observed Jack Giordano arrive in auto, and enter the Ravenite. Auto was registered to Dominick Rando, Stanfordville NY.

At 4:50pm, James LaForte Sr and Edward LaForte arrived.
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Auto was being driven by George Helbig

Wasn't he the guy that led the FBI to the nYPD mole from the Intelloigence Divsion -Det. Piest?
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Re: 7/6/1987 - Ravenite

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TSNYC wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:43 am
Joseph Messina (assuming that’s Massino)

There was a Gambino member named Joseph Messina. He died in 1999.


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Re: 7/6/1987 - Ravenite

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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:12 am
TSNYC wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:43 am
Joseph Messina (assuming that’s Massino)

There was a Gambino member named Joseph Messina. He died in 1999.


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Ah didn’t realize that. Was thinking this must have been around time Massino was in prison
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Re: 7/6/1987 - Ravenite

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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:12 am
TSNYC wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:43 am
Joseph Messina (assuming that’s Massino)

There was a Gambino member named Joseph Messina. He died in 1999.


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I think Massino caught a 10 year bit in early 87...the one where he did his time in the fed in Alabama...
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Re: Old NYPD Surveillance Report

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Helbig--havent read that name since like '99

so he was a street type guy who was friends with which Gambino member?

And then he knew the peeist guy socially who was a retired one leggeed det. NYPD who sat on the jury?
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