Buffalo/Ontario Mob Acitivity

[CabriniGreen]

@wiseguy

I think antimafia beat you to the post...

[CabriniGreen]

@wiseguy

So what does it mean exactly, in your opinion?

[CabriniGreen]

@ antimafia

You too actually, wgats your take?

[SILENT PARTNERZ]

Between the CI's and electronic eavesdropping, LE quoted in this article
knows the story of this situation. They are telling just enough to let us know this fact.

[johnny_scootch]

All except the Buffalo BS.

Sonny why do you call bullshit?

They are quoting an undercover officer who worked Hamilton organized crime and Peter Edwards is a respectable journalist.
If it was bullshit it would mean both of them are blatantly lying in this article.


To me it's just further proof that whatever the state of the Buffalo family may be one thing it isn't is dead.

[CabriniGreen]

I dont wanna start nothing silly, but some guys do seem to take it......almost ........PERSONAL? I dont get the reactions at all....

[SonnyBlackstein]

All except the Buffalo BS.

Sonny why do you call bullshit?

They are quoting an undercover officer who worked Hamilton organized crime and Peter Edwards is a respectable journalist.
If it was bullshit it would mean both of them are blatantly lying in this article.


To me it's just further proof that whatever the state of the Buffalo family may be one thing it isn't is dead.

There has been zero activity in Buffalo for decades now with the FBI pronouncing the family defunct since god knows when (and they have motive to say the opposite) and now suddenly not only is Buffalo alive and well but it exerts control over Hamilton in Canada again, and not only that but an Buffalo is LCN and the Musitano’s are Ndrangheta. So the multiple Ndrine’s in Canada are taking orders from Buffalo? It’s just ridiculous in my opinion.

[SonnyBlackstein]

I dont wanna start nothing silly, but some guys do seem to take it......almost ........PERSONAL? I dont get the reactions at all....

Who’s taking anything personal?

I simply think Buffalo existing as a powerful family exerting control over southern Ontario flies so contrary to the known facts it can aptly be characterized as Bullshit.

Nothing Personal about it.

[NickleCity]

Here is a Peter Edwards Article about Manning one of the LE sources quoted in his current article about Buffalo being involved with the hits in Hamilton: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... force.html

Seems he infiltrated the mob in the area and some of the corrupt Hamilton police didn't like it.

[Wiseguy]

@wiseguy

I think antimafia beat you to the post...

You're right, I missed that. Apologies to antimafia.

@wiseguy

So what does it mean exactly, in your opinion?

Like I said, there's no specifics, just vague assertions. The article talks about people in Buffalo having a say north of the border, picking sides between the two groups fighting in the Niagra region, being the ones who would have to give approval for high level killings, etc. Who exactly?

The article says there is a guy involved in gambling who worked for mobsters in New York state and he owed Musitano money. That, in and if itself, is believable. We still see remnants of families involved in things, especially gambling, in various places. But one would be wise not to read too much into this article as far as there still being a functioning hierarchy in Buffalo.

[Wiseguy]

Incidentally, NickleCity posted this over on GBB. Appears to be the 2006 chart the FBI made which, according to a 2012 article, showed 23 remaining members. Unfortunately, most of them in the chart have been redacted for various reasons.

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[SILENT PARTNERZ]

Incidentally, NickleCity posted this over on GBB. Appears to be the 2006 chart the FBI made which, according to a 2012 article, showed 23 remaining members. Unfortunately, most of them in the chart have been redacted for various reasons.

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Most of those guys are dead. There's few guys left up there protecting what little or their interests
there is left to protect.

[antimafia]

Updated article by CBC News reporter who has been covering the Iavarone murder. A source, Stephen Metelsky, is quoted in the story as saying that Iavarone is connected to the Musitanos.

Iavarone family not speaking with police and want to be 'left in peace'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton ... -1.4827936.

[Frank]

It's still unclear to me, even back when Buffalo was active, the relationship between the various groups in Canada and the American LCN. So what I get out of this is this latest hit was by the Musitanos, getting reveange for Angelo's murder. The Musitanos we're owed money by a group backed by a U.S. LCN Family. The Musitanos tried muscleing in on this group, and pissed off either the left over Buffalo guys or another New York crime family.

[NickleCity]

It's still unclear to me, even back when Buffalo was active, the relationship between the various groups in Canada and the American LCN. So what I get out of this is this latest hit was by the Musitanos, getting reveange for Angelo's murder. The Musitanos we're owed money by a group backed by a U.S. LCN Family. The Musitanos tried muscleing in on this group, and pissed off either the left over Buffalo guys or another New York crime family.

I thought the Musitanos were behind it too, until AntiMafia posted and article indicating the victim was associated with the Musitano Family. If that is the case looks like the rival group is set on eliminating the Mustinos from the equation.