THE BLACK HAND FORUM

The Spagnolo father, was he targeted by the Scoppas? If so, you figured the pentito would of confessed that, question, who targeted Spagnolo, if the Scoppas, did Giordano, Sollecito, etc. Then someone else did Spagnolo, Hamilton? Violi/Luppino? Musitanos??Woodbridge or the HAs. Any insights? I thin...

I think the idea is that the police are giving the informant "agency" to operate on their behalf. Like a secret agent. That's exactly what the Canadian discussions need, actually... "A Bonanno secret agent in Canada said that the murdered man was a member of a Los Angeles family.&quo...

I think the idea is that the police are giving the informant "agency" to operate on their behalf. Like a secret agent. That's exactly what the Canadian discussions need, actually... "A Bonanno secret agent in Canada said that the murdered man was a member of a Los Angeles family.&quo...

How strong is the evidence actually that he was made in LA? Afaik it has been mentioned in only one article. The article cites information from a "police agent" in Canada. As Cabrini pointed out, this is probably a reference to Vincenzo Morena, who was described as a "police agent&qu...

That’s what I’m thinking. He got made with the Gambinos/inzerillos in LA, who mostly absorbed the remnants of the old LA family, and are now under Tommy Gambino. Almost like a subfaction of the NY Gambinos, possibly their own family or under the inzerillo cosa nostra. if it is true it means the gam...

^^^^ Un mafieux montréalais soupçonné de tentative de meurtre https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/2020-08-06/un-mafieux-montrealais-soupconne-de-tentative-de-meurtre.php According to the translation the murder target was Spagnolo himself but the guy who was stabbed became a v...

The FBI only included members as confirmed if a member source or wiretap explicitly called them a member. Was it not two independent sources? Using only one informant for confirmation is a bit dubious. Here is the criteria recently posted by Snakes. Looks like confirmation from Associate CIs also q...

Thanks for this. He could very well have been a members but then again we have seen how important associates back in the 1960s were listed as members or suspected when they weren't. Seems strange that the Feds wouldn't have gotten confirmation on his membership in 30 years. Especially if he were im...

B. wrote:The FBI only included members as confirmed if a member source or wiretap explicitly called them a member.

Was it not two independent sources? Using only one informant for confirmation is a bit dubious.

johnny_scootch wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:19 pm

johnny_scootch wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:03 am But the Todaro Sr. who's now dead was also likely not the original Sr.

His father was named Anthony.

And his grandfather?

Why does that matter? I think you're misunderstanding how this thing works.

I think you do. It's a Sicilian custom to name the firstborn son after the grandfather.

johnny_scootch wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:03 am But the Todaro Sr. who's now dead was also likely not the original Sr.

His father was named Anthony.

And his grandfather?

Todaro also has a son named Joseph so for all practical purposes he is the Sr now. Pogo Technically if all 3 have the same name the grandson would be the third. Juniors never become seniors even if their father dies they either drop the Jr altogether or keep it so they aren't confused with their la...

I just got a phonecall from Todaro. He told me that 'these jerkoffs should stop tarnishing my legacy and stop drooling over every word coming from the alphabetized A-holes'. Although he didn't name anyone in particular I feel like I knew who he was talking about. He asked me if there was 'any way we...

OL. That I know, but to make it realistic instead of being the tiniest possible tail wagging the biggest possible dog, who literally are we talking about? What guys in Buffalo are the senior management team that governs these guys inn Canada? The idea of Todaro (or anyone else in Buffalo) running a...

^^^^ Manning stated here on TBHF that Pat and Angelo’s father and uncle were made in tbe ‘ndrangheta and answered to Calabria. Manning also stated that, in the 1990s, Pat was desperate to be made — he couldn’t be inducted into tbe Calabrian mafia — so he asked Papalia to make him. But Musitano was ...