THE BLACK HAND FORUM

John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?

Someone needs to add that YouTube clip of Dennis Hopper explaining Sicilian DNA. These are not Germans or Swedes we are talking about - these are Mediterranean people. If someone saw old photos of Chick Ciancaglini and didn't know who he was, you would assume he was a black gangster. Maybe not the ...

We are not Carbonari
We are not realists
But we are Camorrists
And we f*ck this and that

At least they were subtle, huh?

Very interesting. Knew nothing about Carbonari so thanks for that rabbit hole :).. The dynamic of political activism that goes rogue and become intertwined with criminal activity always interests me. Parts of the corsican mafia has always had a nationalistic flair to it as well. Not to mention Briga...

PC-Pennisi has a nice ring to it tho. Almost too perfect. On topic: It's stunning to me that he drops names so freely. It's one thing to mention Scarfo, Testa and other names that are long dead and gone. But the fact that he mentions Phil Narducci, Mazzone, Dom Grande ( I believe?) and others.. And ...

It’s shocking that Philly made Persiano when he has checked in PC at every Place he was it. How did No one not know that..??? Did they not ask around because he was already supposedly made with the Lukes ? Wonder why the Lucchese released him in the first place and what crew was he in ?( anyone kno...

What happened to FRANK MATTHEWS?? Did they ever find him? He's never been found. There's a few theories circulating. One is that some shady lawyers connected to the Genovese tricked him into a meeting on a boat and made him disappear. Others believe he made it out of the country and went undergroun...

Interesting fascination with numbers it seems. 24-48-96 etc..

Almost like they're into numerology. I guess it's the heritage and inspiration from freemasonry?

They sure are name dropping a lot of serious heavy hitters who are still active and in good standing.

I've gone back and forth through the years regarding Stanfa's involvement.. Still not sure where I stand but the strongest indicator of his innocence is the fact that Bruno was blown away with a shotgun. I wouldn't volunteer to sit just inches away from a (sawed off?) shot gun blast. Stanfa was actu...

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I defend SB, but drives me nuts when he whines about the facts of The Irishman...no one ever claimed it was a documentary, it's a Hollywood movie!

Then don't mention American Gangster whatever you do!

Totally agree. We have bits of a narrative but not the whole arc...(Noa had one tho. Sorry couldn't help myself...Too much r/sopranos)

Guess we'll have to hope for clarity in the form of De Santis flipping ala Massino. Very unlikely but you never know.. He has some stories for sure.

I'm torn on the whole thing as well. There's something off about the story we've been told. BUT: With all that in mind.. I assume they weren't gonna leave the body to be found, right? Just chop it up and smuggle it out piece by piece (pun intended)... Not very difficult. Especially if it's a hotel f...

Polack: You know all the wierdest people on every corner in all the cities.. You move around like a gypsy my man.. haha.. But wasn't Schultz a notoriously bummy dresser?

Cheap, ugly and nasty but what a character. No fucks ever given. And no back steps taken, regardless of opponent.

More NY: Tommy DeSimone, Tony Bender Strollo..