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Have there been any killings in the USA (not Canada) that could be called mob hits or mob-adjacent hits in the 2020s? There was that last little burst at the end of the 2010s (Zottola, that one Lucchese loanshark, the guy dumped in the river) but I can't think of any starting from 2020. I guess the...

Thanks Tony. You are always bang on it super fast with the genealogy man - much appreciated! I guess that makes him half-Italian, quarter-Irish, quarter-English by descent then. Weird he was nicknamed The German. Must be some story behind that… Cheers I realised I didn’t quite think my fractions th...

Does anyone know Joe Watts’s ethnic background? His nickname is “The German”, but Anthony Ruggiano said on a recent podcast that he is English. Watts is an English name, not German. But that could be an Anglicisation. Wikipedia says he is Italian on his mother’s side, and German and Welsh on his fa...

Does anyone know Joe Watts’s ethnic background? His nickname is “The German”, but Anthony Ruggiano said on a recent podcast that he is English. Watts is an English name, not German. But that could be an Anglicisation. Wikipedia says he is Italian on his mother’s side, and German and Welsh on his fat...

Interesting - so at least some Ludovicos/Lodovicos down south. Probably common I guess. Thanks!

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:10 pm Here's his family tree:

https://pauljgatto.tripod.com/luzzi_descendants.htm

Wow - that is deep and comprehensive! Many thanks

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:11 am

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:05 am Angelo Lutz’s family/ancestors changed/Americanized their last name to Lutz , I forget what it originally was…..

Luzzi

Ah, thanks fellas

Yeah - I did mention that somewhere in the thread above buried in amongst all the back and forth. He uses that term, and I think another similar one, a few times in the book. There are a lot of references to things relating to turning and circles in all these records in general. It’s interesting, be...

Cheers. And interesting re the Germany connection. There was that famous Camorra hit on a whole bunch of guys in Germany 15 years or so ago as well. I’m going too far on another tangent now tho!

*Just double checked. It was my 5x Great Grandfather, and his name was Joseph Comitti (not Comite). And apparently this is a name for ppl from Como.

Yeah, I was already thinking after Ivan’s post that Ludovico, whilst in Italian form, is a very Central European/Austrian/German sounding name. Maybe I’m wrong and lots of Southern Italians have that name? But it makes me think of the likes of Ludwig van Beethoven performing for high society in Vien...

Thanks man. Ah, Louis Boschetto was the guy B mentioned on your show that I was thinking of! Gonna screenshot these names - appreciated. I knew it was very rare. I’ve spent quite a bit of time googling the issue (not real primary research like you guys, just secondary stuff), and only found Senter a...

Yeah, you nailed it bro. All that other stuff is bullshit. It changes too, cos when I was googling the guy a couple of years ago, the suggestion was that his name came from Senta, not Sente. And the Senter from up north seem kind of legit, because I found whole discussions about Senta vs Senter as N...

Yeah I was mainly kidding that the accent would turn it into "Senta". I never thought about it like that, it could very well be true for some people. "Sente" in Italians-in-Italy Italian would be pronounced something like "sayn-tay", right? Sen-tay I haven’t looked int...

What I meant by the original post is that you should put youtube videos in the mugshot section, not specifically in this thread. If you dont have access to the mugshot section, you will have to make a number of posts to be able to have access. It seems you need 500 posts to access the Mugshot secti...