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Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Benito » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:34 pm

Joseph Zarra ? Salvatore Cetrullo ? Both Gerardo crew members so I believe. No idea on residency, sorry.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by B. » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:16 pm

I'm of the opinion that Settimo Accardi was a Lucchese member as well. Like the Pizzolatos he was from Vita. He was also an in-law of Onofrio Abate, also from Vita by way of Tunisia, and was ID'd as a Lucchese NJ captain by Accetturo and other reports. The Pizzolatos have been mentioned as having been part of an earlier NJ family (Newark family) along with the murdered underboss Sam Monaco, also from Vita. It looks like this Vita group of the early Newark family later joined the Lucchese family. Sam's brother Frank Monaco has been linked to Accardi into the 1950s.

In the 50 years after Valachi charts from 1988, Settimo's son Carmine Accardi is identified as a Lucchese soldier. The senate hearing report from earlier in the 1980s IDs Carmine Accardi as a "significant criminal associate" in the Lucchese family associated with Abate and other major players in the Lucchese NJ faction. He even shows up as one of few associates on a chart showing the entire Lucchese family hierarchy.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Hailbritain » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:07 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:56 am
Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:34 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:20 am
Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.
How do you know the list is accurate ? Anthony cerutto is accardi’s nephew and he states Accardi was 100% a lucchese member . He should know more than most
I know the list is pretty damn accurate because I have researched this thing for 30 + years. Not sure if I know who this Anthony Cerrutto is but if it´s somebody you found on a facebook page sharing information...I´m happy for you.
Cerruto is a made guy in the genovese family , Accardi was his cousin on his fathers side . He’s aware of the genovese affiliation , he’s also on valachi’s chart as a genovese member which he says is 100% wrong . He was a lucchese captain going way back in the NJ faction , he think he would know more than most HK . It’s nothing to do with Facebook
Not sure if I follow you... Are you saying this Cerrutto guy, a made Genovese guy, is having a facebook page where he shares information with you and others?
He says he’s retired , I speak with him privately quite often . He was arrested and indicted with the bruschi crew , he is accardi’s cousin on his fathers side . He’s been asked a number of times about this subject , and he’s adamant accardi was a lucchese capo and a lucchese made member . Everyone can choose to believe what they like and have there own opinion . No doubt HK you are a great researcher but I would Defo believe Cerrutto on this particular subject

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by HairyKnuckles » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:56 am

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:34 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:20 am
Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.
How do you know the list is accurate ? Anthony cerutto is accardi’s nephew and he states Accardi was 100% a lucchese member . He should know more than most
I know the list is pretty damn accurate because I have researched this thing for 30 + years. Not sure if I know who this Anthony Cerrutto is but if it´s somebody you found on a facebook page sharing information...I´m happy for you.
Cerruto is a made guy in the genovese family , Accardi was his cousin on his fathers side . He’s aware of the genovese affiliation , he’s also on valachi’s chart as a genovese member which he says is 100% wrong . He was a lucchese captain going way back in the NJ faction , he think he would know more than most HK . It’s nothing to do with Facebook
Not sure if I follow you... Are you saying this Cerrutto guy, a made Genovese guy, is having a facebook page where he shares information with you and others?

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Hailbritain » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:34 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:20 am
Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.
How do you know the list is accurate ? Anthony cerutto is accardi’s nephew and he states Accardi was 100% a lucchese member . He should know more than most
I know the list is pretty damn accurate because I have researched this thing for 30 + years. Not sure if I know who this Anthony Cerrutto is but if it´s somebody you found on a facebook page sharing information...I´m happy for you.
Cerruto is a made guy in the genovese family , Accardi was his cousin on his fathers side . He’s aware of the genovese affiliation , he’s also on valachi’s chart as a genovese member which he says is 100% wrong . He was a lucchese captain going way back in the NJ faction , he think he would know more than most HK . It’s nothing to do with Facebook

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by HairyKnuckles » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:20 am

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.
How do you know the list is accurate ? Anthony cerutto is accardi’s nephew and he states Accardi was 100% a lucchese member . He should know more than most
I know the list is pretty damn accurate because I have researched this thing for 30 + years. Not sure if I know who this Anthony Cerrutto is but if it´s somebody you found on a facebook page sharing information...I´m happy for you.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Ozgoz » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:07 am

Ignore me that was Ham Delasco

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Hailbritain » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.
How do you know the list is accurate ? Anthony cerutto is accardi’s nephew and he states Accardi was 100% a lucchese member . He should know more than most

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Ozgoz » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:04 am

I thought Accardi passed the flag to Tumac, either read that in 'the boys from n.j' court case book or remember pic saying it about 10 years ago, referring to Accardi as an "original."
Or option c may have pulled that out of my ass 🤔.. getting old.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by HairyKnuckles » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:57 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Not sure he was a captain at all. The earliest Lucchese NJ capo we can trace is Benjamin Pizzolato. Regarding Accardi (or Accardo) and his Family membership, you can probably PM JD and ask, I´m sure he knows about this.

Hailbritain wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

The 1977 list I referred to above is pretty damn accurate. Accardi was determined to have been a Genovese member. Me too thought that Accardi was with the Luccheses but I was wrong until I saw that list. Frankie Carbo falls into same cathegory and possibly Angelo Tuminaro too. For a long time I thought Carbo was a Lucchese, but he wasn´t. He too is on the Genovese list of 1977 and his name shows up on a list of proposed members as a deceased Genovese confiscated by the FBI in the early 1990s.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Hailbritain » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:17 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo
It’s pretty certain he was a lucchese member . A lot of those lists and charts back then had a lot of inaccuracies

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:10 am

I thought Accardi was an early Lucchese Jersey Crew Capo?


Pogo

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Hailbritain » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:08 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:40 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:27 am

Should also add that Settimo Accardo was actually a Lucchese member.


Pogo
Actually Pogo, Settimo Accrdi has been determined to have been a Genovese member. He is on a FBI list of deceased Genovese members dated in 1977. They had previously been wrong about him when they listed him as a Lucchese. With that in mind, he falls into same category (so to speak) as Frankie Carbo, who we for a long time thought to have been a Lucchese but actually was a Genovese.
Where is the evidence ??? The fbi list is probably wrong

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by HairyKnuckles » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:40 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:27 am

Should also add that Settimo Accardo was actually a Lucchese member.


Pogo
Actually Pogo, Settimo Accrdi has been determined to have been a Genovese member. He is on a FBI list of deceased Genovese members dated in 1977. They had previously been wrong about him when they listed him as a Lucchese. With that in mind, he falls into same category (so to speak) as Frankie Carbo, who we for a long time thought to have been a Lucchese but actually was a Genovese.

Re: NJ Members List Circa 1983

by Angelo Santino » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:18 pm

Very cool. Thanks for posting.

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