by Villain » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:34 pm
Antiliar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:32 pm
Villain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:55 pm
I have another question for anyone around here and that is...was Dallas an open territory or what? In the old days I used to read that Marcello's people were running things over there but in some of my research i came upon many infos regarding Chicago's influence in that same area since the 1940's, especially in the gambling and vending machine schemes. I think that even New York had their own people down there but I might be wrong.
Chicago either worked with the Dallas Family or would have kicked up to them. The Marcellos had a close relationship with Dallas, but don't think Dallas was under New Orleans's authority as some sources claim. Los Angeles was also close to the Dallas Family.
Thanks for the info Antiliar. Off the top.of my head i think that Marcus Lipsky allegedly was one of the first Chicago guys over there unless you have some other info. During the 1930's he was mostly in Chicago since he and Ross Prio were involved in semi-legit opertions but during the next decade some reports say that he was in Dallas "taking care of Chicago's share". In 1945 i think that Dave Yaras' brother, Sam also took for Dallas regarding the same reason. Years later during the JFK murder investigations, Dave explanied Sam's departure to Dallas because of an alleged conflict between the two brothers which was obviously a lie. Sam died in 1956 i think, which was one of the reasons for Dave's return to Chicago from Cuba. I also believe in your statement that it is quite possible that at one time the Chicago boys kicked up to someone over there but I also remember reading somewhere that during Giancana's reign, some people from that same area owed money to him, which in fact was one quite usual situation during that time. It was like everybody owed money to Giancana or the feds really hated him and wrote whatever they liked in their reports lol
In addition, when i was working on my food article, i noticed one John Ingraffia who worked with Prio and Lipsky and i wonder if he is related with todays Tony Ingraffia...but this is off topic
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I have another question for anyone around here and that is...was Dallas an open territory or what? In the old days I used to read that Marcello's people were running things over there but in some of my research i came upon many infos regarding Chicago's influence in that same area since the 1940's, especially in the gambling and vending machine schemes. I think that even New York had their own people down there but I might be wrong.
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Chicago either worked with the Dallas Family or would have kicked up to them. The Marcellos had a close relationship with Dallas, but don't think Dallas was under New Orleans's authority as some sources claim. Los Angeles was also close to the Dallas Family.
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Thanks for the info Antiliar. Off the top.of my head i think that Marcus Lipsky allegedly was one of the first Chicago guys over there unless you have some other info. During the 1930's he was mostly in Chicago since he and Ross Prio were involved in semi-legit opertions but during the next decade some reports say that he was in Dallas "taking care of Chicago's share". In 1945 i think that Dave Yaras' brother, Sam also took for Dallas regarding the same reason. Years later during the JFK murder investigations, Dave explanied Sam's departure to Dallas because of an alleged conflict between the two brothers which was obviously a lie. Sam died in 1956 i think, which was one of the reasons for Dave's return to Chicago from Cuba. I also believe in your statement that it is quite possible that at one time the Chicago boys kicked up to someone over there but I also remember reading somewhere that during Giancana's reign, some people from that same area owed money to him, which in fact was one quite usual situation during that time. It was like everybody owed money to Giancana or the feds really hated him and wrote whatever they liked in their reports lol
In addition, when i was working on my food article, i noticed one John Ingraffia who worked with Prio and Lipsky and i wonder if he is related with todays Tony Ingraffia...but this is off topic