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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sun May 05, 2024 11:17 pm

Patrickgold wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 7:16 pm That gang party arrest that the article talks about was related to his father who is now in an Ohio prison supposedly for snitching.
When'd his dad get locked up first? That "resisting arrest" photo for junior is from 2014.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Sun May 05, 2024 7:16 pm

Ivan wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 5:36 pm
Ivan wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:50 pm Here's another pic below of possible hit victim Bobby English, photo credit to Joe Puzzles. 2014, resisting arrest.
OK I was looking up the old info on Bobby English on here (I'm fascinated by the case; the Outfit alledgedly whacking a 24 year old kid in the 2020s is pretty out there, even as just a rumor) and I found this from Tony from a couple years ago:
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:06 am Some references in Berwyn crime forums support that a “Robert English” was a well known 12th St Player member in the area. One reference claimed that when he was arrested when police from multiple suburban towns broke up a large gang party in Berwyn, he threatened officers and their families and boasted that he had “connections” that could look up their names and addresses.
So I suppose the "resisting arrest" photo above might be from this incident?
That gang party arrest that the article talks about was related to his father who is now in an Ohio prison supposedly for snitching.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sun May 05, 2024 5:36 pm

Ivan wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:50 pm Here's another pic below of possible hit victim Bobby English, photo credit to Joe Puzzles. 2014, resisting arrest.
OK I was looking up the old info on Bobby English on here (I'm fascinated by the case; the Outfit alledgedly whacking a 24 year old kid in the 2020s is pretty out there, even as just a rumor) and I found this from Tony from a couple years ago:
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:06 am Some references in Berwyn crime forums support that a “Robert English” was a well known 12th St Player member in the area. One reference claimed that when he was arrested when police from multiple suburban towns broke up a large gang party in Berwyn, he threatened officers and their families and boasted that he had “connections” that could look up their names and addresses.
So I suppose the "resisting arrest" photo above might be from this incident?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Sun May 05, 2024 5:11 pm

Ivan wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:01 pm So Vena no longer holds court at Richard's, do I have that right?

Yesterday I asked my Chicago homie Pericles Abbasi if he'd ever been to Richard's (he has).
I doubt it unless it's during the day or week. It's a very small place and i would be surprised he'd be doing business amongst a bunch of 30 somethings boozing.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sat May 04, 2024 7:21 pm

chicagodog wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 7:16 pm
Ivan wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 4:21 pm
scott22 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 3:34 pm Bobby “Bobo” English , Jr

Not to be confused with his dad Bobby “Taz” English , Sr.
Someone actually calls him "Booboo" on that memorial site thingy. Close enough to "Bobo" I guess. :)
Any theories on why he was killed and OC connection? Looks like he was a 12th st guy. Maybe stole from the wrong person?
Antiliar's source has it that he tried to steal from the Cicero crew and they whacked him in Austin to make it look like a gang thing.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by chicagodog » Sat May 04, 2024 7:16 pm

Ivan wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 4:21 pm
scott22 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 3:34 pm Bobby “Bobo” English , Jr

Not to be confused with his dad Bobby “Taz” English , Sr.
Someone actually calls him "Booboo" on that memorial site thingy. Close enough to "Bobo" I guess. :)
Any theories on why he was killed and OC connection? Looks like he was a 12th st guy. Maybe stole from the wrong person?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sat May 04, 2024 4:21 pm

scott22 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 3:34 pm Bobby “Bobo” English , Jr

Not to be confused with his dad Bobby “Taz” English , Sr.
Someone actually calls him "Booboo" on that memorial site thingy. Close enough to "Bobo" I guess. :)

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by scott22 » Sat May 04, 2024 3:34 pm

Bobby “Bobo” English , Jr

Not to be confused with his dad Bobby “Taz” English , Sr.

Scott

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Fri May 03, 2024 10:50 pm

Here's another pic below of possible hit victim Bobby English, photo credit to Joe Puzzles. 2014, resisting arrest.

And there's even more pics of him at this "gun violence memorial" site link that are different from his Facebook memorial page: https://gunmemorial.org/2020/05/31/robert-english

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Fri May 03, 2024 6:53 am

Seemed like Vena was under a lot of scrutiny/surveillance there for a while, so it seems unlikely that he hangs at such a known “mob bar”. Also he lives in the burbs and is in his 70’s….but who knows

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by chicagodog » Thu May 02, 2024 7:32 pm

Ivan wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:01 pm So Vena no longer holds court at Richard's, do I have that right?

Yesterday I asked my Chicago homie Pericles Abbasi if he'd ever been to Richard's (he has).
I don’t know. I don’t go to Richard’s and just see Bobby Dominic on the street in front of Richard’s. I haven’t been in there in probably 3 years.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by chicagodog » Thu May 02, 2024 7:30 pm

Patrickgold wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 6:14 pm
chicagodog wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 am
PolackTony wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:50 pm I’m not in the know as to current guys in that area in any way myself. I go back to visit family but have lived in NYC for a long time now. People tell me that they see guys that look the part at Imperial’s, Vinnie’s, Salerno’s, etc. — and that they see people occasionally in the old HSAC as well — but they don’t know who these guys are so I don’t have any names. Few of the people from my era even live in the old neighborhood today as it is. Used to be that apart from Richard’s and La Scarola, the spots were Cafe Cappuccino, Bella Notte, Oggi (the original one at the corner of Noble), Burger Baron, and LaRoc’s. Except for Burger Baron, them joints are all gone now. Funkster is in the neighborhood, he might have a better idea than me. City Pool Hall is still open, I believe — wonder if any guys still hang out there.

Regarding Jimmy Cozzo’s sons, so far as I know he only had two: Sammy and Philly. Sam is the one who is a retired CPD lieutenant and lives in Elmwood Park. Phil was the one from the 2004 and 2014 gambling busts (the latter with that Albanian, Fuat Useni) — he died in 2015. I believe that the “compound” is owned today by one of Jimmy’s daughters, Rosanne LaCalamita, at least on paper. Would assume that other relatives could also be there. Another daughter, Cathy, is married to John Nitti, one of the many Chicago intermarriages. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe that this is the same John Nitti who took over the travel agency from his dad Nick and was involved in the 1990 Triton College contracting scandal. Cathy used to run City Pool, not sure if she still does. Some of the Cozzo grandkids also own property by Taylor St and in Armour Square, which is interesting.
Talked to Joe at Imperial today and he said Bella Notte might be reopening. The food wasn’t anything special and I’d rather have Mart Anthony’s and La Scarola. Surprising most of your friends/people moved out of the neighborhood. I’m damn near the only one of my neighborhood friends who doesn’t live in Bridgeport. Most bought their parents or grandparents houses. Will be interesting to see what comes out of this prostitution sting in Bridgeport or if it will be swept under the rug (probably). When I’m back in Bridgeport Sunday I’m going to meet up with the old crew and see if anything gets shared as two of them were arrested in the sting- supposedly 5 Chinese women with no papers, an unspecified amount of money, and my ma said guns. I’ll shake the bushes and see if any of them say anything.
Bella Note reopening where? They have announced that they were looking to open in Downers Grove. Did you hear they were reopening on Grand Ave?
Nope it will be suburbs. They will not be reopening on Grand.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Thu May 02, 2024 7:01 pm

So Vena no longer holds court at Richard's, do I have that right?

Yesterday I asked my Chicago homie Pericles Abbasi if he'd ever been to Richard's (he has).

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm

Patrickgold wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 6:14 pm
chicagodog wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 am
PolackTony wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:50 pm I’m not in the know as to current guys in that area in any way myself. I go back to visit family but have lived in NYC for a long time now. People tell me that they see guys that look the part at Imperial’s, Vinnie’s, Salerno’s, etc. — and that they see people occasionally in the old HSAC as well — but they don’t know who these guys are so I don’t have any names. Few of the people from my era even live in the old neighborhood today as it is. Used to be that apart from Richard’s and La Scarola, the spots were Cafe Cappuccino, Bella Notte, Oggi (the original one at the corner of Noble), Burger Baron, and LaRoc’s. Except for Burger Baron, them joints are all gone now. Funkster is in the neighborhood, he might have a better idea than me. City Pool Hall is still open, I believe — wonder if any guys still hang out there.

Regarding Jimmy Cozzo’s sons, so far as I know he only had two: Sammy and Philly. Sam is the one who is a retired CPD lieutenant and lives in Elmwood Park. Phil was the one from the 2004 and 2014 gambling busts (the latter with that Albanian, Fuat Useni) — he died in 2015. I believe that the “compound” is owned today by one of Jimmy’s daughters, Rosanne LaCalamita, at least on paper. Would assume that other relatives could also be there. Another daughter, Cathy, is married to John Nitti, one of the many Chicago intermarriages. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe that this is the same John Nitti who took over the travel agency from his dad Nick and was involved in the 1990 Triton College contracting scandal. Cathy used to run City Pool, not sure if she still does. Some of the Cozzo grandkids also own property by Taylor St and in Armour Square, which is interesting.
Talked to Joe at Imperial today and he said Bella Notte might be reopening. The food wasn’t anything special and I’d rather have Mart Anthony’s and La Scarola. Surprising most of your friends/people moved out of the neighborhood. I’m damn near the only one of my neighborhood friends who doesn’t live in Bridgeport. Most bought their parents or grandparents houses. Will be interesting to see what comes out of this prostitution sting in Bridgeport or if it will be swept under the rug (probably). When I’m back in Bridgeport Sunday I’m going to meet up with the old crew and see if anything gets shared as two of them were arrested in the sting- supposedly 5 Chinese women with no papers, an unspecified amount of money, and my ma said guns. I’ll shake the bushes and see if any of them say anything.
Bella Note reopening where? They have announced that they were looking to open in Downers Grove. Did you hear they were reopening on Grand Ave?
Yeah, this is probably what was meant, that it's reopening in the burbs.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Thu May 02, 2024 6:14 pm

chicagodog wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 am
PolackTony wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:50 pm I’m not in the know as to current guys in that area in any way myself. I go back to visit family but have lived in NYC for a long time now. People tell me that they see guys that look the part at Imperial’s, Vinnie’s, Salerno’s, etc. — and that they see people occasionally in the old HSAC as well — but they don’t know who these guys are so I don’t have any names. Few of the people from my era even live in the old neighborhood today as it is. Used to be that apart from Richard’s and La Scarola, the spots were Cafe Cappuccino, Bella Notte, Oggi (the original one at the corner of Noble), Burger Baron, and LaRoc’s. Except for Burger Baron, them joints are all gone now. Funkster is in the neighborhood, he might have a better idea than me. City Pool Hall is still open, I believe — wonder if any guys still hang out there.

Regarding Jimmy Cozzo’s sons, so far as I know he only had two: Sammy and Philly. Sam is the one who is a retired CPD lieutenant and lives in Elmwood Park. Phil was the one from the 2004 and 2014 gambling busts (the latter with that Albanian, Fuat Useni) — he died in 2015. I believe that the “compound” is owned today by one of Jimmy’s daughters, Rosanne LaCalamita, at least on paper. Would assume that other relatives could also be there. Another daughter, Cathy, is married to John Nitti, one of the many Chicago intermarriages. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe that this is the same John Nitti who took over the travel agency from his dad Nick and was involved in the 1990 Triton College contracting scandal. Cathy used to run City Pool, not sure if she still does. Some of the Cozzo grandkids also own property by Taylor St and in Armour Square, which is interesting.
Talked to Joe at Imperial today and he said Bella Notte might be reopening. The food wasn’t anything special and I’d rather have Mart Anthony’s and La Scarola. Surprising most of your friends/people moved out of the neighborhood. I’m damn near the only one of my neighborhood friends who doesn’t live in Bridgeport. Most bought their parents or grandparents houses. Will be interesting to see what comes out of this prostitution sting in Bridgeport or if it will be swept under the rug (probably). When I’m back in Bridgeport Sunday I’m going to meet up with the old crew and see if anything gets shared as two of them were arrested in the sting- supposedly 5 Chinese women with no papers, an unspecified amount of money, and my ma said guns. I’ll shake the bushes and see if any of them say anything.
Bella Note reopening where? They have announced that they were looking to open in Downers Grove. Did you hear they were reopening on Grand Ave?

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