by JoelTurner » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:55 pm
Antiliar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:00 pm
I was going over Rocco Fischetti's file and it mentioned a meeting at Joe Accardo's house in Livingston, NJ, attended by Rocco, Abner Zwillman, and others unmentioned in 1946. I'm wondering if this is Joe Accardi.
In 1946, his sister Patricia Accardi and her husband Onofrio Abate lived at 49 Hillside Ave,
Livingston, NJ. At the time, Joe Accardi was still single, seeing as he may have been bouncing around during this period, it's quite possible that he briefly lived with them. If he resided there and hosted a meeting, outsiders wouldn't necessarily have known who exactly owned the house.
By 1949, he was married and living at 312 Mt. Prospect Ave, Newark, NJ.
Antiliar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:00 pm
Charles and Rocco Fischetti were friends of Johnny D'Agostino [...] his father (maybe both parents) came from Messina. The document described him as the boss of Egg Harbor.
There were other Messinese in Egg Harbor. In 1936, Joe Abate and John Lardiere were arrested there with some South Jersey locals who were Messinese: Gus and Anthony Cappella from Gesso, Joseph Rifice from Naso, and Philip Grasso from Malvagna.
I'd seen D'Agostino's name as a part of Enoch "Nucky" Johnson's group, but I haven't looked into any of them. A lot of those people seemed to have big titles: Danny Stebbins -
Nightclub Czar, George Hill -
Race wire King, etc. I know that Herman "Stumpy" Orman led this group in their later years.
On the topic of Atlantic County, NJ and Chicago ties, Paul "Skinny" D'Amato who was the front owner of the
500 Club comes to mind.
B. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:07 am
That crew was connected to Chicago through Joe Abate who once associated with the Gennas and Abate was allegedly a cousin of the Accardis though he came from Marsala and not Vita.
I haven't seen any reference saying that
Joe Abate was a cousin to the Accardi bros. However, I think it would be a lot likelier that
Onofrio Abate was their cousin. Seeing as he was also from Vita and married their sister, it strikes me as being more probable. With Onofrio being fairly obscure, it's possible there may have been some confusion over the years.
Of course, I wouldn't rule out Joe Abate being related. We don't know anything about his family background and the Accardi bros were related to other mafia members from Trapani like Vincent Moresellino.
[quote=Antiliar post_id=272126 time=1703052003 user_id=77]
I was going over Rocco Fischetti's file and it mentioned a meeting at Joe Accardo's house in Livingston, NJ, attended by Rocco, Abner Zwillman, and others unmentioned in 1946. I'm wondering if this is Joe Accardi.
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In 1946, his sister Patricia Accardi and her husband Onofrio Abate lived at 49 Hillside Ave, [b]Livingston[/b], NJ. At the time, Joe Accardi was still single, seeing as he may have been bouncing around during this period, it's quite possible that he briefly lived with them. If he resided there and hosted a meeting, outsiders wouldn't necessarily have known who exactly owned the house.
By 1949, he was married and living at 312 Mt. Prospect Ave, Newark, NJ.
[quote=Antiliar post_id=272126 time=1703052003 user_id=77]
Charles and Rocco Fischetti were friends of Johnny D'Agostino [...] his father (maybe both parents) came from Messina. The document described him as the boss of Egg Harbor.
[/quote]
There were other Messinese in Egg Harbor. In 1936, Joe Abate and John Lardiere were arrested there with some South Jersey locals who were Messinese: Gus and Anthony Cappella from Gesso, Joseph Rifice from Naso, and Philip Grasso from Malvagna.
I'd seen D'Agostino's name as a part of Enoch "Nucky" Johnson's group, but I haven't looked into any of them. A lot of those people seemed to have big titles: Danny Stebbins - [i]Nightclub Czar[/i], George Hill - [i]Race wire King[/i], etc. I know that Herman "Stumpy" Orman led this group in their later years.
On the topic of Atlantic County, NJ and Chicago ties, Paul "Skinny" D'Amato who was the front owner of the [i]500 Club[/i] comes to mind.
[quote=B. post_id=272182 time=1703142461 user_id=127]
That crew was connected to Chicago through Joe Abate who once associated with the Gennas and Abate was allegedly a cousin of the Accardis though he came from Marsala and not Vita.
[/quote]
I haven't seen any reference saying that [b]Joe Abate[/b] was a cousin to the Accardi bros. However, I think it would be a lot likelier that[b] Onofrio Abate [/b] was their cousin. Seeing as he was also from Vita and married their sister, it strikes me as being more probable. With Onofrio being fairly obscure, it's possible there may have been some confusion over the years.
Of course, I wouldn't rule out Joe Abate being related. We don't know anything about his family background and the Accardi bros were related to other mafia members from Trapani like Vincent Moresellino.