THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:20 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:11 pm To be fair, I remember talking about it somewhere, it just may not have been on the board. Tuohy had the photos themselves on his Facebook page before he made that video, but he took them all down. I remember saving a lot of them sitting on my ass during covid so that gives you a time frame of when he first posted them.

Oh OK my bad, thought you meant that we discussed them extensively on the board before.

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:11 pm To be fair, I remember talking about it somewhere, it just may not have been on the board. Tuohy had the photos themselves on his Facebook page before he made that video, but he took them all down. I remember saving a lot of them sitting on my ass during covid so that gives you a time frame of when he first posted them.

Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:30 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:29 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:54 pm Strange video I found apparently made by writer John Willian Tuohy. These guys are all supposed to be Chicago mobsters but I only recognized a small minority of them. At the beginning he says he has info for these guys and I was going to try to contact him about it but on his social media he says please don't contact him about mob research matters. Weird. Anyway, leaving this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F55vVLJy7aw

Are these people legit mobsters other than the famous ones who pop up occasionally? They just look like random criminals other than the occasional outfit guy seen here and there.

This is pretty old (sorry, I know you love hearing that). A lot of these guys are connected but I suspect many of them weren't. I think these were from Chicago PD.

Dammit it even searched for Mr. Tuohy on here before posting, couldn't find anything. Blargh. Thanks Snakes.

In the interest of me not spamming old stuff from years ago, how would I have found something like this on search? This is the only stuff that comes up if you search for John Tuohy: search.php?keywords=John+Tuohy

I also tried searching for the video URL itself as it would presumably be present in any discussions of the video and the search engine practically bit my head off for trying that. (NOT ACCEPTABLE!)

Also if you could point me to where the old discussion of this that would be great.

I swear I'm learning guys, it's going slowly but it's happening.

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:29 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:54 pm Strange video I found apparently made by writer John Willian Tuohy. These guys are all supposed to be Chicago mobsters but I only recognized a small minority of them. At the beginning he says he has info for these guys and I was going to try to contact him about it but on his social media he says please don't contact him about mob research matters. Weird. Anyway, leaving this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F55vVLJy7aw

Are these people legit mobsters other than the famous ones who pop up occasionally? They just look like random criminals other than the occasional outfit guy seen here and there.

This is pretty old (sorry, I know you love hearing that). A lot of these guys are connected but I suspect many of them weren't. I think these were from Chicago PD.

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:54 pm Strange video I found apparently made by writer John Willian Tuohy. These guys are all supposed to be Chicago mobsters but I only recognized a small minority of them. At the beginning he says he has info for these guys and I was going to try to contact him about it but on his social media he says please don't contact him about mob research matters. Weird. Anyway, leaving this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F55vVLJy7aw

Are these people legit mobsters other than the famous ones who pop up occasionally? They just look like random criminals other than the occasional outfit guy seen here and there.

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:01 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:09 pm His association with Bobby Dominic and the area where his machines have been places would be grand Ave territory.

So the distinct crew territories are actually geographically delineated like that, with boundaries and everything? I thought it was way more nebulous than that these days.

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:09 pm His association with Bobby Dominic and the area where his machines have been places would be grand Ave territory.

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:43 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 4:18 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:42 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:38 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:39 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/

Who is Jerry DeMarco Polack do you know that name or his restaurant? I'm told he's an immigrant from Italy - this has to be him right? I know the Cafe Cappucino (which appears to be his first venture) was a major facet of the Stier Malone Anderson Report years ago as they were surveilling the Grand Avenue location as top guys were meeting with union officials - names like Cozzo, Belli, etc.
https://demarcositasca.com/our-story/

Also thanks for the background. I think one of my favorite parts of this forum is finding how modern day Chicago guys always have a familial connection to the Outfit going back a generation or two. The Joe Shine connection is quite interesting. The guys who seem to 'earn' or control large money making enterprises seem to have been groomed early on and stay in the shadows - always the son or nephew of someone - meanwhile, the white gang banger types from Cicero seem to make the headlines for the petty rough stuff.

Jerry Demarco is the owner of Demarco’s restaurant on Lake St in Itasca. The same shopping center that Cassano had the social club and also the same shopping center where Cassano and D’Amico had that “modeling” place which was basically a whore house

I just looked on Google Maps - yikes that 'spa' in the corner of the complex? That looks about as shady as you can get - its amazing the police allow these places to exist. I was told Anthony Demarco worked at that restaurant for years - I wonder if he is working for Cassano or kicking up to the same territorial boss.

It sounds like they are in different crews but who knows. Demarco Grand Ave and Cassano Elmwood Park. These days it’s hard to distinguish because everyone works together or has business ventures together

Out of curiosity what makes Demarco 'Grand Ave' crew? His location?

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:43 am Out of curiosity what makes Demarco 'Grand Ave' crew? His location?

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 4:18 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:42 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:38 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:39 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/

Who is Jerry DeMarco Polack do you know that name or his restaurant? I'm told he's an immigrant from Italy - this has to be him right? I know the Cafe Cappucino (which appears to be his first venture) was a major facet of the Stier Malone Anderson Report years ago as they were surveilling the Grand Avenue location as top guys were meeting with union officials - names like Cozzo, Belli, etc.
https://demarcositasca.com/our-story/

Also thanks for the background. I think one of my favorite parts of this forum is finding how modern day Chicago guys always have a familial connection to the Outfit going back a generation or two. The Joe Shine connection is quite interesting. The guys who seem to 'earn' or control large money making enterprises seem to have been groomed early on and stay in the shadows - always the son or nephew of someone - meanwhile, the white gang banger types from Cicero seem to make the headlines for the petty rough stuff.

Jerry Demarco is the owner of Demarco’s restaurant on Lake St in Itasca. The same shopping center that Cassano had the social club and also the same shopping center where Cassano and D’Amico had that “modeling” place which was basically a whore house

I just looked on Google Maps - yikes that 'spa' in the corner of the complex? That looks about as shady as you can get - its amazing the police allow these places to exist. I was told Anthony Demarco worked at that restaurant for years - I wonder if he is working for Cassano or kicking up to the same territorial boss.

It sounds like they are in different crews but who knows. Demarco Grand Ave and Cassano Elmwood Park. These days it’s hard to distinguish because everyone works together or has business ventures together

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:42 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:38 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:39 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/

Who is Jerry DeMarco Polack do you know that name or his restaurant? I'm told he's an immigrant from Italy - this has to be him right? I know the Cafe Cappucino (which appears to be his first venture) was a major facet of the Stier Malone Anderson Report years ago as they were surveilling the Grand Avenue location as top guys were meeting with union officials - names like Cozzo, Belli, etc.
https://demarcositasca.com/our-story/

Also thanks for the background. I think one of my favorite parts of this forum is finding how modern day Chicago guys always have a familial connection to the Outfit going back a generation or two. The Joe Shine connection is quite interesting. The guys who seem to 'earn' or control large money making enterprises seem to have been groomed early on and stay in the shadows - always the son or nephew of someone - meanwhile, the white gang banger types from Cicero seem to make the headlines for the petty rough stuff.

Jerry Demarco is the owner of Demarco’s restaurant on Lake St in Itasca. The same shopping center that Cassano had the social club and also the same shopping center where Cassano and D’Amico had that “modeling” place which was basically a whore house

I just looked on Google Maps - yikes that 'spa' in the corner of the complex? That looks about as shady as you can get - its amazing the police allow these places to exist. I was told Anthony Demarco worked at that restaurant for years - I wonder if he is working for Cassano or kicking up to the same territorial boss.

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:38 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:39 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/

Who is Jerry DeMarco Polack do you know that name or his restaurant? I'm told he's an immigrant from Italy - this has to be him right? I know the Cafe Cappucino (which appears to be his first venture) was a major facet of the Stier Malone Anderson Report years ago as they were surveilling the Grand Avenue location as top guys were meeting with union officials - names like Cozzo, Belli, etc.
https://demarcositasca.com/our-story/

Also thanks for the background. I think one of my favorite parts of this forum is finding how modern day Chicago guys always have a familial connection to the Outfit going back a generation or two. The Joe Shine connection is quite interesting. The guys who seem to 'earn' or control large money making enterprises seem to have been groomed early on and stay in the shadows - always the son or nephew of someone - meanwhile, the white gang banger types from Cicero seem to make the headlines for the petty rough stuff.

Jerry Demarco is the owner of Demarco’s restaurant on Lake St in Itasca. The same shopping center that Cassano had the social club and also the same shopping center where Cassano and D’Amico had that “modeling” place which was basically a whore house

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 6:39 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/

Who is Jerry DeMarco Polack do you know that name or his restaurant? I'm told he's an immigrant from Italy - this has to be him right? I know the Cafe Cappucino (which appears to be his first venture) was a major facet of the Stier Malone Anderson Report years ago as they were surveilling the Grand Avenue location as top guys were meeting with union officials - names like Cozzo, Belli, etc.
https://demarcositasca.com/our-story/

Also thanks for the background. I think one of my favorite parts of this forum is finding how modern day Chicago guys always have a familial connection to the Outfit going back a generation or two. The Joe Shine connection is quite interesting. The guys who seem to 'earn' or control large money making enterprises seem to have been groomed early on and stay in the shadows - always the son or nephew of someone - meanwhile, the white gang banger types from Cicero seem to make the headlines for the petty rough stuff.

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm Nothing indicates that he was charged in that case or ever convicted on any drug related charges though. Just that his name was cited as involved by one of the defendants. While it’s possible that it’s not the same Rocco D’Ambrosio, there doesn’t seem to be a candidate for another Rocco D’Amnrosio, at least not that I could find. It would also make sense that a guy who was married to a PR woman might have had ties to some PR guys.

Rocco D’Ambrosio was also the kid of William “Rocky” D’Ambrosio, a relative of Joe Amabile who was convicted on murder charges in the early ‘50s and then went out to Scottsdale after his release. William D’Ambrosio’s mother, Grazia Amabile, was the older sister of Joe Amabile. William D’Ambrosio was convicted on fraud in conspiracy charges in 1981 in AZ, related to some real estate interests and a bar that he was involved in there; he died in 1988.

https://dondevereux.com/2022/02/15/rocky-and-frank/